Four in-lineage attempts to widen the standing stance failed - remove a tax, add a joint-space knife, change the target, add a task-space metric penalty - because the stance was the end state of the get-up path; trained from scratch with the right terms it grew right from day one
stance-decided-by-get-up-path.A posture a skill ends in is shaped by the path the policy takes to reach it; if several single-variable edits to the terminal-phase reward cannot move it, stop editing that phase and retrain with the terminal constraint present from the start.
Symptom
v2_6c stood with its feet 0.159 m apart (task-space) and its hips yawed 45-47 deg the same way, which split on the real robot. Standing-phase reward edits did not move it.
Context
V2.7-A removed the flat-feet tax on compensated stances (stance unchanged); V2.7b added a hip-roll lower-bound hinge (+5 deg in 3,000 iterations, yaw ratchet); V2.8 changed the stand_pose target to a wide flat stance (stance unchanged, yaw not unwound, feet nearly overlapping, mu 0.4 transfer 2%); V2.9 penalized lateral spacing in metres (the policy parked just outside the penalty's gate in a lunge, 0% success). The v2_6c get-up goes through a split and closes the feet together as it rises.
Change
In-lineage stance surgery was formally closed. V3.1 trained from scratch with task-space stance terms present from the first iteration (and, after P1, a positive width band instead of a penalty).
Outcome
V3.1 P1b: lateral stance 0.364 m, foot tilt 0.0 deg, all four categories 100%, MuJoCo mu 1.0 and 0.4 both 100% - with a symmetric toe-out the kinematic audit had not enumerated. P1c (with a yaw guard): 0.355 m, all six acceptance criteria passing, mu 1.0-0.4 all 100%; it became the product.
Mechanism
A converged policy does not rebuild the path that produced its terminal posture; a standing-phase gradient only finds the nearest hack around the posture the get-up delivers.
Applies when
- the final posture of a transition skill is wrong and resists terminal-phase shaping
- repeated continuation rungs produce hacks instead of the intended posture
- deciding between another in-lineage fix and a from-scratch retrain
“窄站距 + yaw 扭是 v2_6c 起身策略(劈叉起身 → 双脚并拢收势)的**结构性 终态**,不是站立段的孤立参数 —— 站立形态由起身路径决定,在血统内只动 站立段奖励改不动它。”